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		<title>Comment on Vision Zero &#8211; all for naught? by survivalskills</title>
		<link>http://survivalskills.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/vision-zero-all-for-naught/#comment-506</link>
		<dc:creator>survivalskills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst I personally think that the Vision Zero moniker DOES lead influential people to think &quot;ban them&quot;, I don&#039;t think I missed the point at all in the context of the article I reviewed. 

I looked at the two strategies the article highlighted as having the potential to reduce accidents and explored some of the obvious problems with both of them, a critical view which wasn&#039;t considered in the article itself, which gave both approaches something of a five star review.

As regards the guardrails, I know the BMF have been pushing for protection for the posts for a very long time - the point was that Spain was using their EU presidency (if I remember right) to try to push the entire EU to adopt them as part of a unified strategy. There was an article I wrote at the time on the old blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst I personally think that the Vision Zero moniker DOES lead influential people to think &#8220;ban them&#8221;, I don&#8217;t think I missed the point at all in the context of the article I reviewed. </p>
<p>I looked at the two strategies the article highlighted as having the potential to reduce accidents and explored some of the obvious problems with both of them, a critical view which wasn&#8217;t considered in the article itself, which gave both approaches something of a five star review.</p>
<p>As regards the guardrails, I know the BMF have been pushing for protection for the posts for a very long time &#8211; the point was that Spain was using their EU presidency (if I remember right) to try to push the entire EU to adopt them as part of a unified strategy. There was an article I wrote at the time on the old blog.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vision Zero &#8211; all for naught? by Malc</title>
		<link>http://survivalskills.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/vision-zero-all-for-naught/#comment-505</link>
		<dc:creator>Malc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you may have missed the point!

That article shows - to some degree or other - an acceptance that bikes will be on the road (and still crashing, whatever legislation or training is in place), and an attempt to include motorcycles within the &#039;Vision Zero&#039; idea.  Previously there have really only been &quot;Ban them!&quot; noises.


Also, AMOI:

&quot;Where guardrails were installed, ‘underrun’ bars were fitted to stop riders hitting the posts that support the rail (something the Spanish have been pressing the rest of the EU to do for a decade, incidentally!)&quot;

The BMF have been pushing for the posts to be covered for almost 20 years, including showing DfT two-part foam covers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you may have missed the point!</p>
<p>That article shows &#8211; to some degree or other &#8211; an acceptance that bikes will be on the road (and still crashing, whatever legislation or training is in place), and an attempt to include motorcycles within the &#8216;Vision Zero&#8217; idea.  Previously there have really only been &#8220;Ban them!&#8221; noises.</p>
<p>Also, AMOI:</p>
<p>&#8220;Where guardrails were installed, ‘underrun’ bars were fitted to stop riders hitting the posts that support the rail (something the Spanish have been pressing the rest of the EU to do for a decade, incidentally!)&#8221;</p>
<p>The BMF have been pushing for the posts to be covered for almost 20 years, including showing DfT two-part foam covers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Inexpensive heated waistcoats by survivalskills</title>
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		<dc:creator>survivalskills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a thought, although I don&#039;t actually do much training from the end of November through till the end of February - one reason is precisely to avoid the coldest weather. I&#039;d need to get some more battery chargers to charge all the AAs tho!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a thought, although I don&#8217;t actually do much training from the end of November through till the end of February &#8211; one reason is precisely to avoid the coldest weather. I&#8217;d need to get some more battery chargers to charge all the AAs tho!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Inexpensive heated waistcoats by Malc</title>
		<link>http://survivalskills.wordpress.com/2009/12/07/inexpensive-heated-waistcoats/#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>Malc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey - if they&#039;re that cheap, why not buy a couple for your trainees to borrow?

Serious-ish comment, as if it&#039;s really cold their performance will be suffering if they don&#039;t have sufficient gear.*

* Excludes the &quot;well &#039;ard&quot; types who probably don&#039;t even have gloves ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8211; if they&#8217;re that cheap, why not buy a couple for your trainees to borrow?</p>
<p>Serious-ish comment, as if it&#8217;s really cold their performance will be suffering if they don&#8217;t have sufficient gear.*</p>
<p>* Excludes the &#8220;well &#8216;ard&#8221; types who probably don&#8217;t even have gloves <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;He/she must have seen me&#8221; &#8211; except they didn&#8217;t. Why? by survivalskills</title>
		<link>http://survivalskills.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/heshe-must-have-seen-me-except-they-didnt-why/#comment-494</link>
		<dc:creator>survivalskills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 12:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the second recent comment about display issues, but I can&#039;t reproduce the problem. If you are having display issues, let me know brower, O/S and any plug-ins and I&#039;ll see what I can find. But given that I&#039;m using a standard issue Wordpress blog and template, my suspicions are that it&#039;s the viewer&#039;s end that the problem lies at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the second recent comment about display issues, but I can&#8217;t reproduce the problem. If you are having display issues, let me know brower, O/S and any plug-ins and I&#8217;ll see what I can find. But given that I&#8217;m using a standard issue WordPress blog and template, my suspicions are that it&#8217;s the viewer&#8217;s end that the problem lies at.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;He/she must have seen me&#8221; &#8211; except they didn&#8217;t. Why? by CiaoKeiron</title>
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		<dc:creator>CiaoKeiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t read the whole article because the right hand column is superimposed over the text. Very frustrating. Can anything be done?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t read the whole article because the right hand column is superimposed over the text. Very frustrating. Can anything be done?</p>
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		<title>Comment on London Bus Lane Etiquette by survivalskills</title>
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		<dc:creator>survivalskills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks - nice to know that the professionals approve of the tips. Interesting comment about HGVs being allowed in some bus lanes - that&#039;s news to me! Down here in Kent we see plenty of foreign drivers. A few clearly have little idea of UK traffic procedures particularly on roundabouts, where a right turn from the left hand lane on a dual carriageway isn&#039;t the least unusual. Nor was it uncommon to meet someone coming the wrong way round the Folkestone one way system down by the harbour when the ferries unloaded there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks &#8211; nice to know that the professionals approve of the tips. Interesting comment about HGVs being allowed in some bus lanes &#8211; that&#8217;s news to me! Down here in Kent we see plenty of foreign drivers. A few clearly have little idea of UK traffic procedures particularly on roundabouts, where a right turn from the left hand lane on a dual carriageway isn&#8217;t the least unusual. Nor was it uncommon to meet someone coming the wrong way round the Folkestone one way system down by the harbour when the ferries unloaded there!</p>
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		<title>Comment on London Bus Lane Etiquette by hgvlgvtraining</title>
		<link>http://survivalskills.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/london-bus-lane-etiquette/#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>hgvlgvtraining</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From an HGV Drivers point of view I think your tips and advise on Large Vehicle is very good. You will find some bus lanes now allow HGV&#039;s to enter. Mirror requirements for truck have improved as has education within the transport industry. Foreign drivers / vehicles are of particullar concern. They view is more restricted than UK truck, so be carefull.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From an HGV Drivers point of view I think your tips and advise on Large Vehicle is very good. You will find some bus lanes now allow HGV&#8217;s to enter. Mirror requirements for truck have improved as has education within the transport industry. Foreign drivers / vehicles are of particullar concern. They view is more restricted than UK truck, so be carefull.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;He/she must have seen me&#8221; &#8211; except they didn&#8217;t. Why? by Malc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For more on &#039;looming&#039;, and how movement can be used to attract attention and increase safety margins, I&#039;ve posted a set on here:

http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2008/08/z-line-introduction.html
http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2008/08/z-line-2-limits-on-vision.html
http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2008/08/z-line-3-prepared-for-action.html
http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2008/08/z-line-4-ouellet.html
http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2008/08/z-line-4-how-it-helps.html

http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2009/10/z-line-comment.html
http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2009/10/z-line-comment-comment.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For more on &#8216;looming&#8217;, and how movement can be used to attract attention and increase safety margins, I&#8217;ve posted a set on here:</p>
<p><a href="http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2008/08/z-line-introduction.html" rel="nofollow">http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2008/08/z-line-introduction.html</a><br />
<a href="http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2008/08/z-line-2-limits-on-vision.html" rel="nofollow">http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2008/08/z-line-2-limits-on-vision.html</a><br />
<a href="http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2008/08/z-line-3-prepared-for-action.html" rel="nofollow">http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2008/08/z-line-3-prepared-for-action.html</a><br />
<a href="http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2008/08/z-line-4-ouellet.html" rel="nofollow">http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2008/08/z-line-4-ouellet.html</a><br />
<a href="http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2008/08/z-line-4-how-it-helps.html" rel="nofollow">http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2008/08/z-line-4-how-it-helps.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2009/10/z-line-comment.html" rel="nofollow">http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2009/10/z-line-comment.html</a><br />
<a href="http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2009/10/z-line-comment-comment.html" rel="nofollow">http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/2009/10/z-line-comment-comment.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Saveable&#8217; Accidents &#8211; why riders don&#8217;t save them! by survivalskills</title>
		<link>http://survivalskills.wordpress.com/2009/10/23/saveable-accidents-why-riders-dont-save-them/#comment-475</link>
		<dc:creator>survivalskills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So add &quot;perception time&quot; (where you realise there&#039;s actually a problem) and &quot;decision time&quot; (where you actually choose what to do about it) together and you get that delay the crash investigators find.

As I&#039;ve said, you&#039;re looking at a couple of seconds. At 30mph, that&#039;s 23m (or 88ft in old money). 

Add in our half second reaction time. Another 6m or so. 

And you&#039;ve got to stop. Around an extra 10m on a reasonable surface. That&#039;s 39m total. 

It actually makes the Highway Code&#039;s stopping distances, which many people would suggest are outdated and easily beaten by a modern car or bike, just a little bit optimistic!

It&#039;s not always a clear cut decision what to do - occasionally there will be a choice. A few years ago I was two up on the Dominator on a group ride, when I saw a car start to pull out from a side road in front of me. Now, I knew the junction was there (signs as well as local knowledge) and I also knew it was difficult to see something coming from the side turning. So I&#039;d already slowed a bit on the approach.

But I also had in mind my two &quot;outs&quot; as I saw the car at the juncion. Brake and stop, or swerve left behind the car. In the event, I opted for the swerve, because the car left me the space and because of the group behind me. 

I&#039;m not sure that &quot;decision time&quot; cost me a great deal in real terms as I was prepared, compared with the necessary &quot;perception time&quot; that would have elapsed if I hadn&#039;t been aware of the junction, whilst I :
- spotted the car
- detected it was moving
- thought &quot;I&#039;m going to hit it if I don&#039;t do something&quot;
- and THEN had to choose &quot;what can I do?&quot;
before finally doing it!

Which is why you need to keep your &quot;escape route&quot;, whether it be braking, swerving or either/or in mind, fully agreed on that point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So add &#8220;perception time&#8221; (where you realise there&#8217;s actually a problem) and &#8220;decision time&#8221; (where you actually choose what to do about it) together and you get that delay the crash investigators find.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said, you&#8217;re looking at a couple of seconds. At 30mph, that&#8217;s 23m (or 88ft in old money). </p>
<p>Add in our half second reaction time. Another 6m or so. </p>
<p>And you&#8217;ve got to stop. Around an extra 10m on a reasonable surface. That&#8217;s 39m total. </p>
<p>It actually makes the Highway Code&#8217;s stopping distances, which many people would suggest are outdated and easily beaten by a modern car or bike, just a little bit optimistic!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not always a clear cut decision what to do &#8211; occasionally there will be a choice. A few years ago I was two up on the Dominator on a group ride, when I saw a car start to pull out from a side road in front of me. Now, I knew the junction was there (signs as well as local knowledge) and I also knew it was difficult to see something coming from the side turning. So I&#8217;d already slowed a bit on the approach.</p>
<p>But I also had in mind my two &#8220;outs&#8221; as I saw the car at the juncion. Brake and stop, or swerve left behind the car. In the event, I opted for the swerve, because the car left me the space and because of the group behind me. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that &#8220;decision time&#8221; cost me a great deal in real terms as I was prepared, compared with the necessary &#8220;perception time&#8221; that would have elapsed if I hadn&#8217;t been aware of the junction, whilst I :<br />
- spotted the car<br />
- detected it was moving<br />
- thought &#8220;I&#8217;m going to hit it if I don&#8217;t do something&#8221;<br />
- and THEN had to choose &#8220;what can I do?&#8221;<br />
before finally doing it!</p>
<p>Which is why you need to keep your &#8220;escape route&#8221;, whether it be braking, swerving or either/or in mind, fully agreed on that point.</p>
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